No, but there are moments when it becomes an art form.

No. Not really. I mean it’s growing in respect. I mean there’s artistry in it. I mean there’s moments when it becomes an art form, but it’s still on the body, and there is a part to it that has – even in the most far out gowns that you’ve made – a utilitarianism to it. It’s in the present nature of it, whether it can be abstract or not, you’re still talking about it in relation on the body. When you move off the body, then it will reach the level of respect. Forming a brand in itself can be an art form, and is a respected art, I believe. And it becomes a part of culture. It’s sort of . . . It’s . . . Besides the craft and the artistry of it, it goes . . . It’s not . . . I don’t consider it a fine art. Recorded on: 7/31/07