Reality show idea: Make Flat-Earthers search for the world's edge
The contestants would try to reach the end of the world, as they understand it.
25 September, 2018
- According to Flat-Earthers, our planet is flat and space travel doesn't happen.
- People are calling for a reality show about Flat-Earthers.
- Flat-Earthers say a 150-foot ice wall surrounds the world.
<p>Amidst all the fake news, misinformation sponsored by governments, and the explosion of conspiracy theories that bombard us daily, it's no surprise that there seems to be a growing number of <strong>Flat-Earthers. </strong>After all, once you start doubting reality and the solidity of the institutions around you, being unsure whether the Earth is flat or round seems almost warranted. This said, <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/718lta/there_should_be_a_reality_show_where_flatearthers/" target="_blank">there is a strong demand (at least online) for a reality show about Flat-Earthers searching for the edge of the world</a>.</p><p>Ah. And what else could better signify our times?</p>
<p>Your basic flat earth belief kit often stems from <a href="https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm" target="_blank">biblical references</a>, such as one, apparently, that mentions a giant tree that's supposedly visible from all corners of the Earth — at its "farthest bounds." If the planet was spherical this would not be possible while a flat Earth allows for such a scenario. Other beliefs that go along with this include claiming that gravity isn't real and that a <em>Game of Thrones</em>-like wall of ice surrounds the rim of the disc-like Earth. This wall is Antarctica while the Arctic Circle is the disc's center. If you went over the wall, you would fall into outer space or end up on an infinite plane. But, as the <a href="https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions" target="_blank">Flat Earth Society site</a> admits, "To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey."</p><p>Notably, <a href="https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#People_have_been_into_space._How_have_they_not_discovered_that_the_earth_is_flat.3F" target="_blank">according to the Flat-Earthers,</a> the 150-foot-tall wall is guarded by NASA. The agency's real mission is to keep the truth away from regular citizens while being an embezzlement front and faking space travel.<br></p><p>Although these beliefs are certainly not supported by the ample evidence to the contrary, provided by people who have experienced the planet's curvature from above — or those who have been to Antarctica — the number of Flat-Earthers is likely to grow. According to a <a href="https://www.livescience.com/62220-millennials-flat-earth-belief.html" target="_blank">2018 survey, </a>about a third of millennials are willing to entertain doubts about the Earth being round. Not all of these believe in the planet being flat, but it's easy to envision their ranks expanding, as such memes tend to acquire new converts by their sheer scope and intellectual frivolity. One clear catalyst for the resurgence of this idea has certainly been the Internet.</p>
<p><img src="https://assets.rbl.ms/18656410/980x.gif"> <small>An animation of the day/night cycle according to Flat Earth Theory over the course of 24 hours.</small><br></p><p>Credit: Flat Earth Society.</p>
<p>The net, in its infinite wisdom, keeps a strong meme alive. So it is in this case, as the desire to watch a reality show about Flat-Earthers searching for the edge of the world keeps popping up on popular Reddit threads time and time again, causing tends of thousands of upvotes and comments. Of course, the impetus behind this show stems, for many, from the hope Flat-Earthers will fail spectacularly.</p><p>One such <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/8emzyl/we_should_fund_a_reality_tv_show_fundingfollowing/" target="_blank">thread</a> proposes that it would be "funny" to "give them access to a helicopter, boats, transportation, and flights to try and find the end of the world." And then, suggests user "Pilotavery," the contestants or "Flerfers" should be made to tell the organizers where they plan to go. The poster thinks this would dampen their enthusiasm, adding "I wonder how long it will take before they give up?" On the other hand, the poster thinks it would be "funny to see how frustrated they get."</p><blockquote><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/8emzyl/we_should_fund_a_reality_tv_show_fundingfollowing/" target="_blank">We should fund a reality TV show, funding/following flat earthers in the search for the end of the earth.</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/flatearth" target="_blank">r/flatearth</a></blockquote><p>Another idea is to have a voting component to the show, with "the most trustworthy" Flat-Earthers being sent to the International Space Station to see the truth for themselves.</p><p>While it's certainly amusing, there is clearly a danger of such a show being set up to make the contestants look ridiculous, especially if you believe that they will not find the edge of the world. The upside for Flat-Earthers could be an opportunity to share their beliefs to millions via television, all the while trying to prove their theory right. Maybe they can make everyone else looks silly by actually finding a wall of ice at the end of the world. Wouldn't you want to watch that to find out?</p><p>In any case, no such show exists at the moment. But, Hollywood, if you're reading this, the internet wants what the internet wants. Make it happen.</p>
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The Flat Earth Society has revealed that SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy launch was a hoax
SpaceX made history Tuesday after successfully launching its Falcon Heavy rocket into space, but not all are convinced any of that actually happened.
09 February, 2018
<p dir="ltr">Millions of people watched on Tuesday as SpaceX's Falcon Heavy, the world's most powerful rocket since Saturn V, launched out of the atmosphere, delivered a Tesla Roadster into space, and then, in three separate pieces, descended back to earth. It was exciting. It was awe-inspiring. It was a grand spectacle.</p> <p dir="ltr">But most of all, it was a sham.</p> <p dir="ltr">The revelation comes from the Flat Earth Society (this <a href="https://www.tfes.org/">one</a>, not this <a href="https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/">one</a>), and it tells of how Elon Musk's recent foray into space was an intricately planned hoax, just the latest in the decades-long “<a href="https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/">globularist</a>" conspiracy designed to fool the world into believing that Earth is round.</p> <p dir="ltr">“It certainly is interesting to see the shift of focus in space programs from official government organisations to privately-run organisations," Pete Svarrior, a moderator on the society's website, wrote in a <a href="https://www.tfes.org/" target="_blank">blog post</a>.</p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODI0MTMyOC9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2ODU5MjgzNn0.gTqLefc-9hWDWs61hjEg3fmtCOWPQZzk00fTohufNGk/img.jpg?width=980" id="2c399" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="85139892e4aa3712b6ccdad43314e85d" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"></p> <p dir="ltr"><em><a href="https://www.tfes.org/" target="_blank">Source</a></em></p> <p dir="ltr">Interesting indeed. The society proposes that people's willingness to believe things they see on the internet is just a new version of the old phrase “It's true, I saw it on TV!"</p> <blockquote>People who believe that the Earth is a globe because "they saw a car in space on the Internet" must be the new incarnation of "It's true, I saw it on TV!" It's a poor argument.<br><br>Why would we believe any privately-held company to report the truth?<br> — Flat Earth Society (@FlatEarthOrg) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlatEarthOrg/status/961242217108123649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2018</a><br></blockquote> <script src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js"> <p dir="ltr">Forget, for a moment, the fact that the once-fledgling Flat Earth Society found <a href="http://bigthink.com/stephen-johnson/understanding-the-really-ridiculous-core-tenets-of-the-flat-earth-hypothesis" target="_blank">new life</a> after thousands of people were able to “see it on the internet" in the early 2000s. And never mind the tweet's curious implication that we should be extra skeptical of “privately-held" companies while assuming government-controlled organizations are more trustworthy.</p> <p dir="ltr">There's a bigger issue at hand: beloved inventor and entrepreneur Elon Musk is a crook.</p> <p dir="ltr"><em>Wake the hell up.</em></p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODI0MTMyOS9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzNTIyMTY3NX0.CYQ6H82H-Hlh_YDL2WuJhm87T3lIhwO9JW2vNzw_fyI/img.jpg?width=980" id="0fc4f" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="61a03b8cbb7ecdeb07b4540f36699c83" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image" /><br/></p> <p dir="ltr">Even Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak “doesn't believe anything" Musk says, as Svarrior noted by citing an <a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inventions/steve-wozniak-on-elon-musk-i-dont-believe-anything-he-says/news-story/06e55800ed3b7db9acbde2835fc80025" target="_blank">article</a> in which “The Woz" expressed doubt over the quality of the technology in Tesla cars.</p> <div class="video-callout-placeholder" data-slug="hey-bill-nye-how-do-you-reason-with-a-science-skeptic" style="border: 1px solid #ccc;">
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<p dir="ltr">There's reason to doubt Tesla. The company says its cars use GPS to navigate. Why is that a problem? GPS technology, which relies on a <a href="http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=55" target="_blank">network of satellites to triangulate positions</a> on the ground, is based on the assumption that Earth is round. Maybe that's why Tesla cars keep <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/23/16923800/tesla-firetruck-crash-autopilot-investigation" target="_blank">crashing into fire trucks</a> and stuff.</p> <p dir="ltr">“I would like to appeal to everyone, Round Earther and Flat Earther alike, to exercise more caution when approaching online content," Svarrior wrote, going on to suggest (grab a pen because you'll want to write this one down) that everyone should “Exercise critical thinking."</p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODM0MTg5Ni9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0MTE3NDc0M30.2bVPbxXAjEXx3BEGX-Rx0nK7EcykkKVerAp3vDuBdPQ/img.jpg?width=980" id="ffe7a" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="c048cfe62a422d5c391a2b35d08bf59c" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"></p> <p dir="ltr">Still, even Svarrior can't deny that Musk has a knack for marketing.</p> <p>“Then again, it was a good car ad."</p> <div class="video-full-card-placeholder" data-slug="bill-nye-explains-how-we-know-the-earth-is-round" style="border: 1px solid #ccc;">
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Understanding the core tenets of the flat-Earth hypothesis
The Flat Earth theory has gained a surprising amount of traction in recent years, thanks largely to YouTube. What exactly do Flat Earthers believe?
02 December, 2017
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<p dir="ltr">In 1492, Columbus set sail for the New World based on the assumption that Earth was round. Why not? After all, <a href="http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/russell/FlatEarth.html">according</a> to historian Jeffrey Burton Russell, “no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the Earth was flat."</p> <p dir="ltr">But nearly 500 years later, an American man was planning a voyage based on the exact opposite assumption. Mike Hughes, a 61-year-old limo driver, was going to <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/25/mad-mike-hughes-cancels-rocket-launch-prove-earth-flat/894762001/" target="_blank">launch himself into space</a> to prove that Earth is flat. Mechanical complications and the federal government shot that idea down, however. (For now at least.)</p> <p dir="ltr">Hughes isn't alone in his theory. Thousands of people — from musicians to football players — believe Earth is flat, and that the world's elite are duping citizens around (across?) the globe with a “<a href="https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/">globularist</a>" conspiracy. </p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc3OC9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzNTk4OTMwNn0.GpPwE48eXlyXJ-NVOc32DVaUhwvQdUBY5MJXOF-KDKs/img.jpg?width=980" id="fcdb9" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="4f505a17694bff37ddab3a2d10a34839" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"><br></p> <p dir="ltr">How is that possible? </p> <p dir="ltr">Many cultures in world history conceptualized the physical world in ways that didn't include a spherical Earth. The ancient Chinese believed Earth to be a flat square, and that only the heavens were spherical. In multiple Indian models of the physical world, Earth was comprised of four continents surrounding a mountain. And the ancient Norse peoples pictured Earth as a disc floating in the middle of a sea <a href="http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/flat-wrong-misunderstood-history-flat-earth-theories/">inhabited by a giant serpent</a>.</p> <p dir="ltr">These ideas, however, were first challenged as early as 2,500 years ago. In the 4th century BC, Aristotle provided some of the first <a href="https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200606/history.cfm">evidence</a> showing that Earth was round: ships disappear hull first when sailing over the horizon, Earth casts a round shadow on the moon during lunar eclipses, and different constellations are visible at different latitudes. </p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc3OS9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2NTMwMzEyNX0.grb3juzTgUyUa1KQ59WR8zTuyqK22qFxVk1Bns5bBhI/img.jpg?width=980" id="3678e" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="a198ec02b408bb2984c18d0f485dd271" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"></p> <p dir="ltr">Aristotle's evidence would be corroborated and elaborated upon extensively over the following millennia. But it seems that nothing — not even GPS technology or manned space flights — can convince some people that Earth is round. </p> <p dir="ltr">In the modern era, the Flat Earth movement started in 1956 with a young British man named Samuel Shenton. Inspired by an 1881 book titled <em>Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe</em>, Shenton founded the Flat Earth Society. A year later the Soviets launched Sputnik 1., rendering the plausibility of his theory questionable, to say the least. Shenton died believing Earth was flat. The next leader, Charles K. Johnson, passed away in 2001, leaving the dwindling organization with just 3,500 members. Then the Internet breathed new life into this ancient worldview.</p> <p dir="ltr">So what exactly do modern Flat Earthers believe? There isn't one exclusive Flat Earth model, but the <a href="https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/about-the-society/faq" target="_blank">Flat Earth Society's website</a> provides a general outline on what seems to be the community's consensus.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>The World Is Disc-Shaped</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">According to Flat Earthers, the world is a disc with edges beyond which no one knows what exists.</p><p dir="ltr">"The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica," <a href="https://www.tfes.org/" target="_blank">reads</a> the Flat Earth Society's FAQ. "Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond."</p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image" dir="ltr"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc4MC9vcmlnaW4ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYxNjQyOTQ0OH0.aZiyUwnEaEg0YwfmfgxS5C99-y7zPo6PtHLkgCMZAx8/img.png?width=980" id="6fb36" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="f721724a9a34c79e18ee4398ef2b11ce" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"><br></p> <p dir="ltr">Some believe an infinite plane lies beyond the wall. Some believe you'd fall into outer space if you crossed it, which seems to be a tough feat — estimates vary, but the average proposed height of the wall seems to be something like 150 feet.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>The Moon and the Sun are the Same Size</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Flat Earthers believe the moon and the sun are the same size — a relatively tiny 32 miles in diameter — and that they orbit around the North Pole. </p> <div><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc4MS9vcmlnaW4uZ2lmIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0NjczNTE3MX0.DsQBF6qJf6OKMAT7ZrANCi4YN5Y9iZpCWKcYLaGW-oY/img.gif?width=980" id="42056" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="b33f880ea5c98bf421f99a9ecee8ebb7" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"><br></div> <p><strong>Gravity Doesn't Exist</strong></p> <p>Our understanding of gravity largely depends on Earth being a spherical object — that explains why objects maintain essentially the same weight across the globe. But Flat Earthers disagree: "Objects simply fall," reads the society's website. Flat Earthers have a few theories as to why objects fall, but they seem pretty confident that the common conception of gravity isn't the ticket: "What is certain is sphere earth gravity is not tenable in any way shape or form."</p> <p class="flex-video shortcode-media shortcode-media-youtube"><span style="display:block;position:relative;padding-top:56.25%;" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="6ce7c8ebe74db9d6ca902547108abb9a"><iframe type="lazy-iframe" data-runner-src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/S6Osm7azX6k?rel=0" width="100%" height="auto" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" style="position:absolute;top:0;left:0;width:100%;height:100%;"></iframe></span></p> <p><strong>The Moon Landing Was Faked and Astronauts Are Lying</strong></p> <p>The U.S. was so caught up in the Space Race, Flat Earthers claim, that it faked the moon landing and only later discovered that Earth was indeed flat. The government then decided to perpetuate this lie, for a multitude of reasons. As for the astronauts in the space shuttles?</p> <blockquote>
<p>"Most Flat Earthers think Astronauts have been bribed or coerced into their testimonies," the Flat Earth Society's website <a href="https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/about-the-society/faq" target="_blank">reads</a>. "Some believe they have been fooled or are mistaken."</p>
</blockquote> <p><strong>Easy Ways To Prove Earth Is Round</strong></p> <p>Want to find out for yourself that Earth is round without launching yourself into space on a homemade rocket? One of the coolest and cheapest ways is to attach a camera onto a high-altitude balloon and let it rise until the curvature of the planet is visible to the naked eye. </p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-youtube"><span style="display:block;position:relative;padding-top:56.25%;" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="d81ae86463f9b77af170ae724c9e63f0"><iframe type="lazy-iframe" data-runner-src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sWUZDOQm_HE?rel=0" width="100%" height="auto" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" style="position:absolute;top:0;left:0;width:100%;height:100%;"></iframe></span></p> <p>You can also observe the constellations from different parts of the world. You'll soon notice that different stars are visible from different vantage points, as Aristotle pointed out in the 4th century BC. This implies that Earth is round — that or all of the stars in the universe are orbiting around Earth at a fixed speed. </p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc4Mi9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY1MTM1NjI3MH0.yQlf6D6CNdyJrGFG5uRS_p7egjS9xBWMYOwB1SbsMTI/img.jpg?width=980" id="4a269" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="3f576215e640be468ce45a55db74461d" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"></p> <p>If all else fails, take a note from Aristotle and go to the harbor — you'll notice that ships disappear hull first. </p> <p class="shortcode-media shortcode-media-rebelmouse-image"><img type="lazy-image" data-runner-src="https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xODQxMDc4My9vcmlnaW4uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2OTcyMTM0NX0.FJ2Uc8dhGnCZjNFj6LxmHYifyDhmRstvzDj4154UF-o/img.jpg?width=980" id="a2d2a" class="rm-shortcode" data-rm-shortcode-id="d2a5c6ed0c318e09942caebc5f0848d2" data-rm-shortcode-name="rebelmouse-image"></p> <div class="video-full-card-placeholder" data-slug="what-do-you-make-of-rising-fundamentalism" style="border: 1px solid #ccc;">
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