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Each week, host Jason Gots surprises some of the world's brightest minds with ideas they're not at all prepared to discuss. Join us and special guests Neil Gaiman, Alan Alda, Salman Rushdie, Margaret Atwood, Richard Dawkins, Maria Popova, Mary-Louise Parker, Neil deGrasse Tyson and many more...

Jill Lepore: Why America keeps going to pieces

A nation born in revolution will forever struggle against chaos. Jill Lepore, author of THESE TRUTHS, on the political divide, public shaming, and the future of democracy.

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  • How the two parties got as ideologically divided as they are now. (Hint: Not the organic will of the people)
  • Public shaming: The dangers of using destructive means to constructive ends.




As Alexander Hamilton put it, the American Experiment puts to the test the question " . . . of whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice . . . or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force."

This question surfaces throughout Jill Lepore's brilliant new history of the United States: These Truths. Our conversation took place during the live-streamed, virally-watched Senate Judiciary hearing on allegations that nominee Brett Kavanaugh committed sexual assault while in high school. Jill comments on this historical moment and much more.

As she puts it in the book's epilogue:

A nation born in revolution will forever struggle against chaos. A nation founded on universal rights will wrestle against the forces of particularism. A nation that toppled a hierarchy of birth only to erect a hierarchy of wealth will never know tranquility. A nation of immigrants cannot close its borders. And a nation born in contradiction, liberty in a land of slavery, sovereignty in a land of conquest, will fight, forever, over the meaning of its history.
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