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Irvine Welsh: Yeah. I was totally right in that social milieu. I was talking [about] these punks who came here that was basically made and whose life was changed by working in a sort of room full of book and TV. He’s fixing them up and sort of to send them back out. I say TVs, I don’t mean transvestites, I mean televisions. And then off to… Then go down in a pub and buy [IB], you “God Save the Queen” playing, and just blasting your eardrums with it. And then off to London next week, basically, chucking everything in. So that was really… It was just… So, for me and so many other people, the cause and effect there is just so stark. You never you never find anything as stark as that again in your life.

The good thing about back then is, well, because you had the remnants of the Welfare, say, if you’ve been working for a while, you’ve got something called the tax rebate, which has [stopped], which meant that you got the tax back in what you’ve… what you paid there in tax that year, you got it back. So people would basically stop work to get their tax rebates. And you also had the housing benefits and you had a decent unemployment benefit program, so you can go to college for a pound back then.

So you could get by. There’s lots of part-time, temporary jobs you could do. You could do dishwashing. You could do portering. There’s just so much, so much around you. There weren’t great jobs, but you could find a job. You could stop work for 6 months [level] of tax rebates and then find a job again and do stuff.

And most people who did that, they didn’t just waste around. They were forming bands and were getting into getting to all sorts of things or were going to college. So, I think it was a great time. There’s a great idea that you had some kind of paid time out back then. It wasn’t the same pressure to to kind of achieve and to sort of… and basically to be kind of middle aged by the time you were 20.

 

Recorded on: September 8, 2008

 

 

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