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Anna Butrico is Chief of Staff of Odgers Berndtson U.S. Anna supports the OBUS leadership team in driving the firm’s growth strategy. Prior to joining Odgers, Anna was a senior[…]

Some “larger-than-life” CEOs have names and personal brands that transcend those of the company that they run. Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are good examples.

Anna Butrico argues that they have a powerful platform and, therefore, a responsibility to use it to analyze how their products and personalities are affecting our world.

The risk of having such high-profile CEOs is that they can overshadow or even undermine the mission of their company.

ANNA BUTRICO: CEOs are certainly important for the organization that they lead. We all have heard the stories of the larger-than-life CEO whose own name and brand transcends the company that he or she is representing. This is exciting because you see their names on headlines. You see them with a big following. People are interested in leaning in, wanting to know what this big personality is going to say next, and what their organization is going to do next. But there's a big question here of the role that that CEO plays within our culture, in establishing how that product, that service that they represent, will service the nation will service other nations and the world at large. 

I think about larger-than-life CEOs like Steve Jobs, like Jack Dorsey, like Elon Musk, they have a platform and I would argue then a responsibility to stand upon it and look at how their products, how their personalities, how their contributions are affecting the world and the discourse about the future of tech, the future of work and the future of how we interact at large. Steve Jobs in particular fascinates me. He could be direct, he could be mean, but he could be very focused and specific about what he wanted and the excellence that he demanded of his people, and in doing so, he created something that was unlike anything anybody had ever experienced. He really thought that the beauty was in the simplicity. The iPhone is just a simple little black rectangle that has changed how we communicate, how we talk. Our goal and we think what serves the customer best is to constantly be working on making things better. 

Though a complicated character, he elevated these questions of how the form of the things that we consume influences how we live and work with them. A CEO has great opportunity to elevate the brand of a company, to really put it in the public eye and make people really trust in the brand that they're buying. But they also have the opportunity to do the exact opposite. The risk you run is when that personality, that brand of the person is bigger than the brand of what the organization of a whole aims to achieve. Leadership is important, don't get me wrong but when leadership steps on the company, when leadership contradicts what the company wants to do, then you have a bigger problem. I'll start with Patrick Byrne who was the CEO of He was a very impressive leader. He had three degrees. 

He had long history at He had helped them go online. It was really in the most exciting part of the business that it had ever been historically. He ended up having a private blog where he would talk about the earnings, where he would foreshadow new developments within the company but he would also start to talk about some conspiracy theories that he had about himself about his role as CEO and how that interacted with the government. He believed that he was tied up into a political scandal that would be a hundred times bigger than Watergate as he said. He said that a Russian spy was intimately involved in his life. 

The stock of crashed because people said who in the world is the CEO and what is he saying? And what does that say about the Overstock brand? The other one we think about is Elizabeth Holmes from Theranos. They created this new blood testing technology that was really fascinating. What we found though, is that Elizabeth Holmes was a bit deceptive in the science, that Theranos technology didn't work. They had a very easy, accessible result of a test that they would use with investors that they would use publicly to say, look our technology works when behind the scenes, it didn't. She very intentionally took her board of directors and made sure that none of them were scientists. 

Some of them were former MDs. A lot of them were policy officials. None of them really knew much about the specific blood testing technology that she aimed to create. So she went completely unhinged in how she was advocating for the technology, she'd fire anybody who stood up to protest it. When selecting a CEO, what should you think about? Is it best to just think about what values the organization has and if that person will fit inside those values? I think it's a bit tricky because values just like people constantly change. Each value is a narrative about who the organization is. And the leader themself introduces their own narrative about where they are taking the company. 

I think having a really diverse board of directors is absolutely critical. You need to have people who hold that CEO accountable but who have very different views of what the CEO is doing what industry the organization sits in, what the objectives are, et cetera, et cetera. Diversity of thought is of course important; capability, crucial. But that thought piece to really challenge that CEO is critical.