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Each week, host Jason Gots surprises some of the world's brightest minds with ideas they're not at all prepared to discuss. Join us and special guests Neil Gaiman, Alan Alda, Salman Rushdie, Margaret Atwood, Richard Dawkins, Maria Popova, Mary-Louise Parker, Neil deGrasse Tyson and many more...

one night in Istanbul, with Chef Musa Dağdeviren

Taped on the Asian side of Istanbul, Turkey: The ancient art of coffee ground reading. Food as a citizen of geographic, not national borders. Chef and food ethnographer Musa Dağdeviren, author of THE TURKISH COOKBOOK, and his ambitious project to preserve Turkey's rich and diverse cuisine.

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Musa, Jason, and Demet at the offices of Yemek ve Kultur (Food and Culture) Magazine

There's a pattern that happens with any new thing. First it's scary, then you settle in to a rhythm, then you hit your stride, then you get too attached to things being the way they are. For a while there I thought I could only record an episode of this show sitting in a particular chair facing a particular direction. When that kind of thing happens, it's time to shake things up. So today's show was recorded 5000 miles away from my comfy New York studio, in my wife's hometown of Istanbul, Turkey. We took a ferry from the European to the Asian side of the city, to the neighborhood of Kadikoy. There we met Chef Musa Dağdeviren—a one of a kind of food ethnographer who's trying to preserve techniques and recipes from Turkey's vast and diverse culinary history before they disappear forever. We ate at his restaurant Ciya Sofrasi and talked to him afterward in the offices of Yemek Ve Kultur (food and culture), the magazine he's been publishing for the past 15 years. Musa is a man on an ambitious labor of love—a mission his mom gave him as a small child to investigate, understand, and pass on this knowledge. He's totally unlike anyone I've ever met, and I'm happy to share this very different episode with you.

THE TURKISH COOKBOOK — Musa's vast compendium for an English speaking audience. Comprehensive as it is, it contains less than half of the 1500+ recipes he's collected in his travels. More to come!

A beautiful documentary on Musa's work on Netflix's CHEF'S TABLE, Season 2.

Saffron Cordial (Safran Şerbeti) made by Jason from Musa's THE TURKISH COOKBOOK

Tray Dumplings (Dizme Manti) made by Jason and Demet from Musa's THE TURKISH COOKBOOK

Lahmacun Pizza with Spiced Lamb made by Jason from Musa's THE TURKISH COOKBOOK

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