Josh Lieb: Our biggest challenge . . . We have so many challenges. It’s . . . it’s . . . it’s all the people. It’s . . . it’s . . . it’s so many people with so many things they care so passionately about. And it’s . . . I think we have a lot . . . People expect us to make a transition from a . . . a . . . a very . . . of a sort of patchwork quilt world where, you know, people in Asia, and people in North America, and people in Europe all have these very distinct cultures, and beliefs, and religions. And . . . and now because of how immediate the world is, and we are all in contact with each other, we’re somehow supposed to make these very different machines function together – you know these very different pieces of clockwork go together. They’re not going to fit. And also . . . You know and it’s not just the different cultures. It’s the cultures of . . . of, you know, the Bible that I revere – sort of this ancient religion – and then a modern world where, you know, there are . . . we somehow expect to be able to fit very old, cranky ideas into . . . into new modern, sleek packaging . . . into . . . into progressive, egalitarian molds. And they’re not going to fit, you know? And I think . . . One of the things I could say with religion, you have to go, “Okay well that’s crappy, but that’s part of it,” you know. But you know I don’t know why I can’t eat bacon. You know that’s it, you know? And then there . . . there are I, I think, much more ludicrous things with any religion too. But I think the . . . the biggest problem is we’re somehow expecting . . . The progressives among us, you know, expect us to make this great leap into a . . . a space-age where, you know, everyone is tolerant and this and that, and this and that; but we’ve got so much – I would call it baggage – of our previous cultures with us. But I would call it baggage, but I think a lot of it’s really good. That’s not going to get on that spaceship with us. You know that’s gonna keep the spaceship grounded. I . . . I . . . I . . . I don’t know how we’re going to make it all fit.
Recorded on: 9/4/07