Big Think

Matt Pidlysny on September 20, 2009, 9:25 PM

Now THIS man is on to something!  Flavoring garbage…YOU, my dear Tim Hall are a work of art. 

By the way, I lied.  I figured if that beam of light wasn’t in your eye you’d start seeing things my way ;) Nothing wrong with a refresh, I say…

Musycks on September 20, 2009, 11:26 PM

                                                           Tim… beware. Someone has found Matt’s sign on and stolen his identity. The odd thing is his style is just like Matt’s who bid us all a fond farewell the other day. There can’t be two of them surley? Of course saying you’ll do something and then having the balls to carry it out requires a degree of discipline I guess?

Matt Pidlysny on September 21, 2009, 1:17 AM

Musycks, when are you going to stop questioning me all the time and start questioning something else?  Perhaps my motives provide a most succulent treat?  The content, perhaps?  No?

Well, that narrows THAT argument down.  Just fyi, it is me, and what you do not see is the reason your claim is false.  My discipline is for justice, and every time I come on this website it breaks my heart NOT to respond to something that concerns me.

So don’t question my motives.  Looks like my content is the last piece of cheese on the plate…Care to bite?

Verisoph sapiens on September 21, 2009, 5:39 AM

… and back to the flavoured Jesus,

I cannot help but quoting Karl Marx :Religion is Opium for the masses.

And like any other drug or even food with the “right” ingredience (loads of sugar to name one) , religion is highly addictive, it creates illusory happiness and fantasies.

The dangers of drugs are obvious and know to almost every one, – but people despite all information still take drugs. So, chances are religion will be consumed forever and a day, because it’s lure is not so tranparent.

sciencesaves on September 21, 2009, 12:19 PM

The pursuit of happiness (in moderation) should not be denied, but when religion claims to offer divine forgiveness for irresponsible behavior, the participants don’t seem to learn from the experience of screwing up, realizing the effects of their actions, and avoiding them in the future.

Two “hail Mary’s” and all is forgotten?  Sad, but true, it seems.  Live with it, learn from it, and have faith in those who care about you to help overcome the pain in a realistic manner that will keep you sane, but not deluded about it.

Sorry to digress…carry on then!

tim hall on September 21, 2009, 3:05 PM

I can’t believe my minister took such a short vaca. He couldn’t resist those scrumptious flavors. I happened to be eating some processed cheese when I came up with the idea of Christian’s processed garbage. God is up there cooking up the real shit. It is almost done. Ha Ha Ha

Musycks on September 21, 2009, 8:15 PM

                                                   Matt, your proposed farewell can’t be taken seriously then? Pity… but I guess that’s no different from anything else you’ve said.

Musycks on September 21, 2009, 8:18 PM

                                                            Tim… what were the motivations of the early church fathers… Iraneaus, Eusubius, Origen and Marcion et al? that’s the key… these guys coalesed all the extant stories and myths and used their versions, often with no factual basis, to claim authority and therefore influence and power. Jesus, Peter and Paul are probably composites of figures that did exist but there is next to no chance that the stories are even close to true.

The flavouring has been going on a long time.

tim hall on September 22, 2009, 3:49 PM

The motivation of the early church fathers was more natural than deliberate. For them to keep their jobs and stay in power, they had to come up with new answers to the mystery. We would know so much more if they would not have destroyed so many documents during the crusades. Because religions were combined with politics, they had to destroy every record that they could find.

The Spanish raided Peru and destroyed artifacts of the original builders of Cusco and surrounding area. These were some of the oldest civilized tribes known to man. The Kiiki built that area in 4000 BC. The Inca made improvements on the Kiiki’s zero tolerance architecture after their takeover. There is an old Kiiki wise tale that man first came out of the lake. These people probably had some great answers. The Spanish just could not allow that to happen. All that was ever discovered from the Kiiki were a few round pots with a slurry of geometric shapes on the outside and one large fresco of a dear killing.

In Syria there are stored tablets that the Syrian government won’t allow historians to examine. They released a selection of fifteen awhile back. They just started allowing archaeologist in China about 20 years ago. This is another area where civalized people lived in 4000 BC. The paradigm shift from uncivalized man to civalized man has never been dated to our satisfaction. I think this fact could be part of the reason for early people claiming a supreme being. Sure you do not wake up one day and start reasoning. But their must have been a 100 year paradigm shift at some point.

kruse scott on September 22, 2009, 10:51 PM

Jesus was the son of god in every religion they agree that Jesus was the son of god so the fact is Jesus may have been the body of god but he was not god. we are all a part of god for that matter. people fought holy wars to tell people that their religion is better but the truth is no religion is better than the other they are all equal. read all the religious books and tell me that they are not saying the same thing but in different ways. 

Musycks on September 22, 2009, 11:38 PM

                                        Kruse… Jesus is only the ‘son of god’ in one religion, Christianity, and even parts of that didn’t agree before Nicea. If you claim Jesus is a god in Islam you are condemned to eternal damnation. You can claim we’re all part of god if you like but I’d like to know your reasons.

tim hall on September 22, 2009, 11:41 PM

I don’t think the Islamic religion would agree with your Jesus god at all. Of coarse religious writings are similar. They originated from the same historic sorcery, the Pagans. Read the book of Enoch. Ignorant early man.

Not all of the Christian religions even believe that Jesus was/is the body of God. A lot of them preach that God is a separate higher majesty.

Prove to me that the stories in the Bible are true. Start with Mathew: 24 through 29 if you like. Or that Revelations garbage. Prove to me that St. John the Divine was not a liar. Where did he get his reference? “Because the Bible says so.” That is for 2000 years of scared ignorant followers.

Did it ever occur to you that those religious wars were fought out of redeeming power, using religion only as a justification? How much do you know about the psychology of historic war? Can you reference that psychology?

sciencesaves on September 26, 2009, 8:10 AM

kruse is caught in the paradox, so I doubt that we’ll get any rational or reasonable justifications for his lack of comprehension until he does the research to understand why religion exists, instead of embracing assumptions.

The flavor of religious belief may be tasty to some, but it is definitely and absolutely artificial man-made garbage.

Not a very wise choice for sustenance.