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Jason Gots: I want to read you a quote: “For reasons which can certainly use close psychological inquiry the West seems to suffer deep anxieties about the precariousness of its civilization and to have a need for constant reassurance by comparison with Africa.” 

That’s Nigerian novelist Chinua Achebe writing about Joseph Conrad and his famous book Heart of Darkness. We’ll come back to that. Born in Poland in 1857, Conrad, like us, lived at a time of rapid globalization, of technological disruption, and of all the wonders and horrors that unleashes. My guest today, Harvard historian Maya Jasanoff, has written all about it in her beautifully written, fascinating new book The Dawn Watch. 

Surprise conversation-starter clips in this episode

Molly Crockett on social media outrage, Robert Steven Kaplan on globalization

Maya Jasanoff Quote: I think that what we need to  remember when we think about  progress is that it doesn’t lift  all boats evenly. It’s a tide.  Or you could even say a tidal wave.  And it can sweep some people up  to the high ground but it can leave  other people drowned.

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