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pokój! commented on What Would Jesus Do…at Dinner? on November 2, 2009, 11:48 PM

Hi Jennifer... "Messiah" = Anointed >One< She says that her Jewish friends said that the wisdom of Christ existed in other messiahs predating Christ... I was responding to that... from what I understand the messiah of Judaism was a singular figure, and that The Jewish religion is still awaiting this messiah. So no, there weren't other messiahs, and that statement of Ms. Weber's confused me. I'm wondering if she meant to say "prophets". It is inconsequential to my comment or the topic whether or not other people have claimed to be the messiah, my "historical attitude" doesn't really come in to play.

pokój! commented on Gathering the thoughts of my belief on October 22, 2009, 2:58 PM

I forgot that I left this topic in such an uninspired state... So Herbie if you ever check back in here... Considering that we are all, in essence, extensions of God (through Him all things were made) perhaps it wouldn't be too much of a stretch of my belief system to postulate that in this sense God created (in His image) the phyiscal image of His spiritual grandeur... that what was created was an expression of His multi-faceted existence. As this being would be pure existence, every aspect of that which was created would inherently connected to His existence, but that which was given consciousness would also inherently have the ability to partake in this connection or not. ------------------- “It’s your whole description of angelic existence that I have a particular problem with." I haven't really described angelic existence insofar as I have only acknowledged that I believe they exist. But in what capacity they exist I am not sure of, and "why?" is a question I do not think I will ever be able to fully answer. But... I do believe there is a spiritual "spectrum", if you will, with God not at one end, but as the prism as well as the source. I believe that the physical and spiritual are inherently connected, it is our perception that "separates" them, so it is not in the sense that angels are "somewhere else". They just don't have physicality in the sense that we look for it. ------------------- "‘Angels have free will’ has all sorts of implications that you don’t pursue. How are they different from us? what was god’s need to create us as well?" They are different in that they are spirit, not made up of phyiscal matter. We are phyiscal beings imbibed with spirit. Though in our present state we are almost completely tied to the physical, we are on our way to remembering our true state in constant connection and oneness with God. ------------------- "Satan appears to have behaved in exactly the same way that a petulant human would, he just has more power than us." Exactly! It is about power, domination, for that being. He is too often seen as God's adversary, but he is not really worthy of being considered an opponent of God. I am opposed to any idea that referrs to the possibility that God could be "overthrown" by satan, and satan knows this is not possible. He is, however, very worthy of being considered an opponent of humanity. All he can do is decieve, throw into confusion, coerce, and distract us from realising that our connection with God is the only way to realise our full existence as humans. His is to be regarded as the threat, but not feared if we allow God into our lives. Satan's power holds no sway in our spiritual lives if we do not fear him and trust in God. But as humanity has fallen from our connection with God due to satan's deception, we have wholeheartedly givin him reign over our existence. The dissolution of this connection with satan is essential in reconnecting with God. ------------------- "You seculate and interpret so far on what little information you can get from the bible but then seem to stop in an arbitrary place.” My belief system may be rooted in the bible but it is sustained by God. What insights He gives me come from a myriad of sources, and most importantly from the time I am able to keep my heart in His presence. This does not happen often enough, for sure, because I am human a member of the human race and am subjected to all the same barriers as everyone else. But through the connection with the Holy Spirit that Jesus provides, God speaks constantly through all things, all situations. I just need to know how to listen. ---------------------

pokój! commented on Where was God on 9/11? on October 22, 2009, 1:59 PM

9/11 was the result of the darkness that humanity has allowed to rule our hearts. It was an example of what happens when we live without God. As is the majority of what goes on in our world.

pokój! commented on How A Gothic Rock Legend Stays Christian on October 22, 2009, 1:54 PM

thats the trick in our times... finding the "right church" howdy mus how'd the trip home go?

pokój! commented on What Would Jesus Do…at Dinner? on October 22, 2009, 1:48 PM

"all of the wisdom of Christ existed in other prophets and messiahs" well fist off there were no other "messiahs"... the messiah was a reference to a future incarnation in the Jewish religion... whether or not some of them still believe that. But I would say that of course all the wisdom of Christ existed pre-incarnation because He was the embodiment of that perfection. Jesus was the creative force in which all was brought into existence so He was, if you will, hard-wired into all creation ("in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God...Through him all things were made...") the part of God that is directly connected with us, and the reason why we have a path of reconnecting with God...