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P Conner on January 9, 2008, 9:24 AM

There is a differnce between a HAND out and a Hand Up. I had a Pell grant to help me pay for college. That is a Hand out. But it also helped me to attend college. I have worked every day since completing college. I see some people wanting a Hand out, and not being willing to work.

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P Conner on January 9, 2008, 2:24 PM

There is a differnce between a HAND out and a Hand Up. I had a Pell grant to help me pay for college. That is a Hand out. But it also helped me to attend college. I have worked every day since completing college. I see some people wanting a Hand out, and not being willing to work.

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Bruce Williams on January 12, 2008, 11:06 AM

There is a big difference when you stop thinking about hand-outs and start thinking about "good investments".

Education is a good investment. Community Development is a good investment. Infrastructure is a good investment. Early childhood medical care is a good investment. Keeping people from becoming homeless is a good investment.

If the payback ( dollars and cents ) is much greater than the investment, it is not a handout, it is the wise use of resources.

Letting things go to hell and then picking up the pieces is never cheap.

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Bruce Williams on January 12, 2008, 4:06 PM

There is a big difference when you stop thinking about hand-outs and start thinking about “good investments”.

Education is a good investment. Community Development is a good investment. Infrastructure is a good investment. Early childhood medical care is a good investment. Keeping people from becoming homeless is a good investment.

If the payback ( dollars and cents ) is much greater than the investment, it is not a handout, it is the wise use of resources.

Letting things go to hell and then picking up the pieces is never cheap.

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johan hendrick on January 17, 2008, 1:06 AM

i am my brothers keeper ,if we can pass so called laws that oppress people those who gain from those laws still are obligated to everyone having the basic needs met

these include but are not restricted to personal saflty and protections ,basic food , shelter and clothing

basic education and resonable oppertuinity for the refining of our inherant skills and talents ,
so that we see the true measure of greatness includes compassion for those upon who's shoulders we stand.

just as a parent has duties and obligations [as well as rewards] so too must those who by chance or good fortune find them selves elivated to the higher appriciations

community means we are a part of something bigger than ourselves ,those belonging to the higher community of peers [presume to rule for a greater good [god]

those ruling over slaves are selling themselves short of the higher glories this incarnate reality offers ,

that we do to others , is that which by karma returns , in this life or the next ,do unto others as you would have done to you

this life is a trial that sets down our future realities ,to whom much is given [very much is expected]
[that you do to the least you do to the most]
at times end we stand before him who is our god ,when he askes what did you do to help his children[and who is not a child of god]would you say i took but gave no return?

at times end cash is a poor meal ,

in times of plenty who can deney the crumbs from thier feast to those who have nothing

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johan hendrick on January 17, 2008, 6:06 AM

i am my brothers keeper ,if we can pass so called laws that oppress people those who gain from those laws still are obligated to everyone having the basic needs met

these include but are not restricted to personal saflty and protections ,basic food , shelter and clothing

basic education and resonable oppertuinity for the refining of our inherant skills and talents ,
so that we see the true measure of greatness includes compassion for those upon who’s shoulders we stand.

just as a parent has duties and obligations [as well as rewards] so too must those who by chance or good fortune find them selves elivated to the higher appriciations

community means we are a part of something bigger than ourselves ,those belonging to the higher community of peers [presume to rule for a greater good [god]

those ruling over slaves are selling themselves short of the higher glories this incarnate reality offers ,

that we do to others , is that which by karma returns , in this life or the next ,do unto others as you would have done to you

this life is a trial that sets down our future realities ,to whom much is given [very much is expected]
[that you do to the least you do to the most]
at times end we stand before him who is our god ,when he askes what did you do to help his children[and who is not a child of god]would you say i took but gave no return?

at times end cash is a poor meal ,

in times of plenty who can deney the crumbs from thier feast to those who have nothing

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scott conway on January 20, 2008, 11:18 AM

justajoe great points!

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scott conway on January 20, 2008, 4:18 PM

justajoe great points!

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lanre oyo on January 21, 2008, 11:18 PM

sum1 once said……dat poverty is tin of the mind…..so wen get ur mind change…& u thibk big…& u work towards becoming big….& u hold on to ur belief..of bin big..u'll 1day become big….

now dat u r big…..there is notin stopping u frm given bck 2d community…..many stil cant change their mind….while many a few….r trying 2change their mind……u dat u ve got ur mind changed……do all u can 2 assist dat nid ur hand…giv & it will com bck unto u..in good measure….

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lanre oyo on January 22, 2008, 4:18 AM

sum1 once said……dat poverty is tin of the mind…..so wen get ur mind change…& u thibk big…& u work towards becoming big….& u hold on to ur belief..of bin big..u’ll 1day become big….

now dat u r big…..there is notin stopping u frm given bck 2d community…..many stil cant change their mind….while many a few….r trying 2change their mind……u dat u ve got ur mind changed……do all u can 2 assist dat nid ur hand…giv & it will com bck unto u..in good measure….

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Catman Cohen on January 22, 2008, 11:23 PM

The concept of a "billionaire philanthropist" is an oxymoron. If somebody has amassed a billion dollars of net worth, that person likely did so by overcharging for products or services either through monopolistic or oligopolistic power in the marketplace. It would be much more impressive to see the "billionaire philanthropist" drastically cut prices for the benefit of mankind rather than merely handing over 10%-20% of personal net worth for purposes of obtaining a tax break long after having gouged the consumer.

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Catman Cohen on January 23, 2008, 4:23 AM

The concept of a “billionaire philanthropist” is an oxymoron. If somebody has amassed a billion dollars of net worth, that person likely did so by overcharging for products or services either through monopolistic or oligopolistic power in the marketplace. It would be much more impressive to see the “billionaire philanthropist” drastically cut prices for the benefit of mankind rather than merely handing over 10%-20% of personal net worth for purposes of obtaining a tax break long after having gouged the consumer.

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Jurin Juran on February 26, 2008, 9:37 AM

Thank you for giving back Pete. My wish is for others to do the same.

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Jurin Juran on February 26, 2008, 9:37 AM

Thank you for giving back Pete. My wish is for others to do the same.

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Jurin Juran on February 26, 2008, 2:37 PM

Thank you for giving back Pete. My wish is for others to do the same.

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Jurin Juran on February 26, 2008, 2:37 PM

Thank you for giving back Pete. My wish is for others to do the same.


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