Norman McDowell
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Norman McDowell commented on No God? Evidence please.. on April 7, 2008, 3:01 AM
and yes I realize that Im arguing strongly, so I apologize if I'm not being passive enough for this argument. I have complete respect for everyone in this argument. I just think your wrong. so I'm arguing.
Norman McDowell commented on No God? Evidence please.. on April 7, 2008, 2:59 AM
Jeff, I had to repeat my argument about 7 thousand times because Bryan could not grasp it. maybe I should have just said it once and told him to read it again when he didn't get it like you did. The difference between arguing in circles and what I did was that I was making the same point the entire time. Which I now have to do again because you don't seem to grasp it either. I'm familiar with human perceptions vs. reality. Read some some my ideas thats basically my entire philosophy. But thats not the argument here. To quote another member on this site: God is the name of the christian god, the one that created Adam and Eve, gave birth to Jesus (as you mentioned). Just like the Muslim God is "Allah" and one of the greek Gods is "Zeus", Christians (which I assume you are because you mentioned Jesus) call their God, "God". So when you say "prove that god doesn't exist" thats what I assume you're talking about. Taking the name "God" and slapping it on to all remaining questions in the universe does not make God exist. You could call all remaining questions about the universe "Allah" then I assume because you have to affiliation to the christian religion.Or do what everyone else in the world does and call it "the unknown". That I would be fine with. Or call it "spirituality". But its not a conscious creator who created the universe in 7 days! Science CAN prove that wrong. read that a few times before commenting back.
Norman McDowell commented on No God? Evidence please.. on April 7, 2008, 2:26 AM
Ok sure. You are 100% sure that you THINK there is a God. Awesome.And you think that "everything we are experiencing, life itself, is thought"But were not talking about your fantasies, were talking about what you can prove!And in NO way does you "thinking that god exists" give one SHRED of evidence that god exists. are you understanding any of this? or am I speaking to a brick wall?
Norman McDowell commented on No God? Evidence please.. on April 7, 2008, 2:12 AM
What does that mean?? Where is your argument? Where is your evidence? You have none. Just beliefs. Just empty beliefs.
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson "Justice delayed is justice denied." -William Gladstone "War is never justified. If it's justified they call it revolution" "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" "You cannot simultaneously prevent war and prepare for war" -Einstien "A wise man never acts, he reacts" "Its possible we're not much prepared to know the purpose of our existence. It's probable in fact, that if we ever did stumble upon it, we would be completely unable to grasp the answer. I don't think we evolved to understand our origin, I think species evolve to survive. To procreate. To live. A state of understanding is an inhumane state, we therefore could not survive very long in it. Perhaps, we need not jump the gun. Maybe we take ourselves one evolutionary step at a time. Perhaps the first step in discovering the meaning of humanity is to make humanity whole again. To ensure that we make it, that we survive. Perhaps we should first become one human race, before we try to become more than human. "
Norman McDowell commented on No God? Evidence please.. on April 7, 2008, 3:32 AM
Jeff, You said "one person can not prove or disprove that God, in any form of religion, is real or not" Yes you can. Even though I'm repeating myself yet again. Proof is: demonstrating the truth or existence of something by evidence or argument. (thats the definition). There is endless, irrefutable evidence that many of the Gods men have created over the years does not exist. physical evidence. and that, by definition, is proof. because all proof is is evidence. Im not attacking you, Jeff, peace be with you, we all have our own takes on spirituality, which is wonderful. I'm glad you decided to defend Bryan. But I wasn't attacking him either. I'm attacking the idea of "god".