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Luke Allen commented on God Granted Us The Ability To Reason on August 28, 2009, 12:51 AM

No, there is complete truth in the Jesus story. We are still learning from his writings 2009 years after his death. 

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Luke Allen commented on The Sacred (dysfunctional) Family on August 28, 2009, 12:48 AM

Ouch. Haha well at least you admit he existed. So just wondering how did Jesus "effectively commit suicide?" And do you think that James (Jesus brother from John and Mary) Would've been a follower of Christ if he believed is brother was illegitimate? 

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Luke Allen commented on God is science. on August 27, 2009, 10:52 AM

Hey SS, my Ohio family, "Luke, I just don't think a person can honestly believe in creationism and not allow it to affect their judgement on reality." We agree!! But what you don't realize is that you can't believe in evolution and not allow THAT to affect your judgement on reality.   "As evidenced by the long and convoluted rebuttals to any differing opinions, keeping your position that "god is science" is one that you're stuck in, at present, (unfortunately)." I think it is my job as a poster to defend what I post. I wouldn't take a position if I wasn't able to defend it. and I don't think it's unfortunate to believe that God is where are science ends and where our science is pressed to discover.    "You're right, it is too easy...that's why so many say "Why not?" unwittingly continuing the perpetuation of future childlike mentality based thinking." If you know it is the easiest position that describes all the data why isn't Occaman's Razor coming to mind to defend God?  "Perhaps the next time you need medical assistance, you should mention that you only need gods science to save you, since theres no need to thank the real and dedicated professionals "PROVIDING gods science"." Perhaps the next time you need medical assistance, you should mention you don't want the use of that pesky MRI machine since it was created from a "primitive thinking" Christian scientist.   "I would imagine that you feel you're rarely ever wrong about anything." No, Sciencesaves, I'm sorry to give you that impression. I feel wrong every day and learn more every day. I just feel you should hold your position if you can. (Trust me if I'm proved wrong I apologize and tell ya.)   "This is a strong indicator that the narrow religious viewpoint affects judgement.  No one is immune from mistakes, but the arrogance of suggesting that you posess some elusive divine knowledge connecting creationism to science is laughable." Again it's not elusive divine knowledge, Dr. Lisle put it in an article for anyone with hears to ears, or eyes to read. It's elusive to you just as evolution is elusive to me.    "I hope you don't take this as a personal attack, and I appreciate your input, even when it doesn't make sense at times, but try to understand that folks have been attempting to justify religious thinking through any means possible for a long time, and it still doesn't work..." No brother, I don't see this personal at all. We have different views and I try to use exactly what I get from other posters in response to their posts. I appreciate your posts even if they don't make sense to me. I think without refuting 1 POINT that Dr. Lisle makes your proving that religious thinking IS justified and does work. God bless ya SS   

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Luke Allen commented on God is science. on August 27, 2009, 10:39 AM

Hey Musycks,                                           "Luke boy! what we have here is a failure to communicate!" Na we communicate just not in a way that can change each other. "Dear Cool hand, are you seriously suggesting answers in genesis is a legitimate source of scientific data?" Yes. Of course. As much as skeptic.com is. (Which I do Love) "It would be hard to imagine a less rigourous group of 'scientists'." Yeah your right... who would want the MRI machine or a model to compute the present strength of planetary magnetic fields4 which was able to predict the field strengths of the outer planets. Those less rigorous people should NEVER be thought as "scientists". "If I want a balanced world view I don't watch Fox News, likewise aig is not the place for critical opinions on evolution unless you're a diehard fundie?" I think balance isn't to avoid fox new. I think balance is going to cnn then fox then bbc. We have a different view on what it takes to be balanced to. "you don't believe the earth is 6000 years old do you?" Yes, I think I do. Theistic evolution does still intrigue me but currently I lean toward the scientific 6000 year old earth view. Keep dancing brother.

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Luke Allen commented on God is science. on August 27, 2009, 1:54 AM

Well it took me 80 minutes from post to post to completely word by word refute and disagree with all of your posts points. Please attempt to actually say something AGAINST the article, scientifically speaking, otherwise keeping my position of creationism and that God is science, is simply too easy. :>

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