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Atheism v. Agnosticism!
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Uploaded on 06/04/2008

After a brief and interesting exchange of views with Skeptic44 and Monopoly Guy, I went back and reread the section in Richard Dawkin’s ‘God Delusion’ entitled: ‘The Poverty of Agnosticism’ (See pages 46-54 of the Bantum Press edition.) Dawkins attacks the agnostics: ‘namby-pamby, mushy pap, weak tea, weedy, pallid fence sitters’ (his quote, not his words) using a probabilistic approach. He argues that given the evidence available, it is not reasonable to ascribe a 50-50 probability for the existence of God.

The meaning of the word Agnosticism, comes from the Greek: ‘without knowledge’. Given that science has provided enormous amounts of knowledge that contradicts the empirical claims of religion, is it reasonable to maintain a position that ‘the jury is still out’?

 

 

(I suspect that our theist friends pokoj, luke and jesse can sit back on this one, rather like the Iranians during the first Gulf War, not caring who wins, but hoping for plenty of casualties.)

 

Richard 

 

 

 

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How useful is the assumption of 'God does not exist'?

Rooters News Agency reported anthropologists recently discovered a little known sect of coffee cup worshippers in the Ukraine. They claim their patron is Saint Denys the Logical and base their beliefs on his texts. Worshippers pour hot coffee into a cup and then pick up the handle, pause and chant 'the handle is only an assumption, but it's the best one we have', they then genuflect 5 times, hop on one leg and drink the beverage. When asked why they revere the coffee cup, one UK devotee HP said, 'you try drinking coffee without it'!!  They are mostly a peaceful group, but do have issues of conflict with the next village, who drink tea, and then have a nice lie down.

S44... again it's got your fingerprints all over this one my friend. With all the quality of information at our disposal as RO points out, is it not a useful assumption to say 'god does not exist' at least in any form that would make one iota of difference to us (hi Herbie)..  therefore the freeing up of time and resources by putting humanities energies into useful pursuits would be of huge benefit to everyone?! therefore atheism is useful, agnosticism just leaves the door slightly open for a pantheist toehold.

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