Reply to Travis: I don't think that is what Pastor Warren's 'argument' is at all. Simply, he is saying he has noticed a marked difference in how believers and non-believers approach death. But to buttress the straw man you have erected and to clear a common misconception (e.g. the doctor who says he'll believe in God when those who pray regrow limbs, etc.), you aren't God and you don't make the rules. Here's Travis, on Earth, screaming for someone to empirically show him eternal life, then he'll believe. Why don't you find out for yourself (Morrissey)? God says that those who believe will have eternal life. The first step is yours - the first step is belief i.e. Believers choose to believe just like you choose not to (i.e. no one has proven there isn't eternal life, for believers). Don't want to take the step because of reason 1, 2, 3, 4, ad infinitum? Then, you'll never know. God's not here to prove himself to little Travis.
P.S. Travis has the support of a psychologist - what does the psychologist believe that may or may not be true? Where is the clear logic in that?
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d t commented on Rick Warren on How to Confront Death on September 7, 2009, 6:28 AM
Reply to Travis: I don't think that is what Pastor Warren's 'argument' is at all. Simply, he is saying he has noticed a marked difference in how believers and non-believers approach death. But to buttress the straw man you have erected and to clear a common misconception (e.g. the doctor who says he'll believe in God when those who pray regrow limbs, etc.), you aren't God and you don't make the rules. Here's Travis, on Earth, screaming for someone to empirically show him eternal life, then he'll believe. Why don't you find out for yourself (Morrissey)? God says that those who believe will have eternal life. The first step is yours - the first step is belief i.e. Believers choose to believe just like you choose not to (i.e. no one has proven there isn't eternal life, for believers). Don't want to take the step because of reason 1, 2, 3, 4, ad infinitum? Then, you'll never know. God's not here to prove himself to little Travis. P.S. Travis has the support of a psychologist - what does the psychologist believe that may or may not be true? Where is the clear logic in that?