Question: Should we stop eating animals to help the environment?
David Chang: They’re here to serve us. Environment’s fine. We can do our part and we’re trying to do our part as a restaurant. We’re recycling oil and the list goes on and on and on.
Just like religion or certain topics like abortion and stuff like that, you’re never going to have an answer that everyone wants to hear on this topic of killing animals for consumption.
I think the closest that you can get is to really read the philosophy in people like __________ Woodingstall or even Alice Waters and Paul Wilson. __________.
It’s never going to go away. So if you’re going to do it, make sure it’s the closest thing to being the best possible way possible.
And it being environmentally unsound; I don’t want to live in a world where everyone’s a vegetarian. I would be incredibly unhappy if that happened.
Question: If you want to be environmentally conscious, what is a reasonable expectation?
David Chang: I just think people need more awareness in terms of where their food’s coming from. And I go back to that, I think that alone will help a lot. I’m not opposed to putting restrictions on it.
Right now we sell obviously a lot of pork. But if we get pork belly, there’s two sides of pork belly per pig. Like these are a lot of animals that are being slaughtered for consumption.
And it would be interesting to be like oh, we’ve met our quota. We’ve sold all the pork possible. It would be nice to do that. In theory, I think that would be wonderful, but I don’t know if that’s practical.
So right now it’s trying to balance what we want to do and what’s actually practical. And maybe we’ll get there in the future. I don’t know.
I think there are a lot more problems in the vegetables that we grow than the meat we grow right now. Most of the stuff, whether it’s organic or not; you go to the supermarket, more people are consuming improperly grown vegetables than they are meats.
I think that there needs to be a major shift in terms of how people buy produce, or food in general. And whether it happens in our lifetime ,I don’t know.
But the only reason we’re doing it because we’ve seen it ourselves and we’re like wow, this actually makes a big difference. We’d love to buy everything sustainable. But at the same time, it’s not practical.
So we can do our best and that’s all I can say. I’m not going to be a crusader or a missionary to do whatever.
But on our end, I know that we try to do our best to do the right thing all the time. We’re not successful all the time, but at least we try.
Discuss
Brigid Morris on February 13, 2008, 1:31 PM
I think that David Chang conflates two groups here: vegetarians (or vegans) who are primarily concerned with animal rights issues, and vegetarians who are primarily concerned with environmental issues. At least for the latter category, I think that everyone can get along%u2014less meat (and more Niman Ranch-style meat); not necessarily no meat. Environmental vegetarians are chefs are the same side%u2014more good, sustainable food%u2014so don't be afraid of the vegetarians, David. We don't bite. And don't be afraid of adding a few more vegetarian options. It's not capitulating, it's us all getting along.
Brigid Morris on February 13, 2008, 6:31 PM
I think that David Chang conflates two groups here: vegetarians (or vegans) who are primarily concerned with animal rights issues, and vegetarians who are primarily concerned with environmental issues. At least for the latter category, I think that everyone can get along%u2014less meat (and more Niman Ranch-style meat); not necessarily no meat. Environmental vegetarians are chefs are the same side%u2014more good, sustainable food%u2014so don’t be afraid of the vegetarians, David. We don’t bite. And don’t be afraid of adding a few more vegetarian options. It’s not capitulating, it’s us all getting along.
Amber Ford on July 4, 2008, 9:51 PM
I think David's reasoning is flawed. First of all, he says that animals are here to serve our purposes. Not true. They are here to serve their own purposes.
He also fails to explain why he thinks that an environmental reason for vegetarianism is not valid, at least he seems to be implying it is invalid. He also never explains why he thinks vegetable consumption is more problematic than meat consumption in the area of food safety.
A person who consumes a vegan diet is far more friendly to the planet compared to "localvores" and people who drive hybrid vehicles.
As for safety, look at the latest tomato scare… the issue was salmonella. Salmonella is not exactly something that is associated with vegetables. It may however be associated with water contamination or some other method of contamination from animal agriculture. It was speculated that water contamination from surrounding animal agriculture was responsible for the spinach scare a while back. This would mean that the safety issue is with meat, not vegetables and fruits.
As for not wanting to see a world consisting of vegetarians, why not? I would love to be part of a world where exploitation of animals is eliminated, after all, we are animals too, and exploitation is linked. Speciesism, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, are all sides of the same coin, and to get rid of these things would do our world nothing but good.
Amber Ford on July 5, 2008, 1:51 AM
I think David’s reasoning is flawed. First of all, he says that animals are here to serve our purposes. Not true. They are here to serve their own purposes.
He also fails to explain why he thinks that an environmental reason for vegetarianism is not valid, at least he seems to be implying it is invalid. He also never explains why he thinks vegetable consumption is more problematic than meat consumption in the area of food safety.
A person who consumes a vegan diet is far more friendly to the planet compared to “localvores” and people who drive hybrid vehicles.
As for safety, look at the latest tomato scare… the issue was salmonella. Salmonella is not exactly something that is associated with vegetables. It may however be associated with water contamination or some other method of contamination from animal agriculture. It was speculated that water contamination from surrounding animal agriculture was responsible for the spinach scare a while back. This would mean that the safety issue is with meat, not vegetables and fruits.
As for not wanting to see a world consisting of vegetarians, why not? I would love to be part of a world where exploitation of animals is eliminated, after all, we are animals too, and exploitation is linked. Speciesism, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, are all sides of the same coin, and to get rid of these things would do our world nothing but good.
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