Question: What is the authentic self?
Andrew Cohen: The authentic self is the conscious experience of an ecstatic sense of urgency and egoless passion that is one with and synonymous with the energy and intelligence that initiated the creative process, and just the simple definition is I say that the easiest way to understand what the evolutionary impulse is is first to- is we realize that when a human being experiences a sexual impulse that’s the biological- it’s a biologically felt command to procreate. And the sexual impulse is really synonymous with the big bang, with the fundamental urge to create or to become. In this case it’s to procreate our own species so whenever a human being experiences the ecstatic urgency that is the sexual impulse we are experiencing the big bang, but we’re experiencing it at the lowest level. Human beings are the only species that experience an urge to innovate and to create things that are new. There’s no other species that experience this, a compulsion to innovate and create things that are new, and of course this started millions of years ago but now we know that the- our capacity to innovate and create has reached an exponential speed, but if we ever meet a truly inspired or passionate or gifted or talented engineer, artist, poet, scientist, spiritual teacher, public servant, but an individual who is passionately committed to creating something new in their presence one will feel a sense of ecstatic urgency, I must do this. And all these individuals are committed to making manifest these potentials that are just- that are just at the verge of entering in to the present. And they see them and they feel them. They see and they feel these potentials and they feel ecstatically committed to giving them birth. So the ecstatic urgency that we feel as the sexual impulse and the ecstatic urgency, the deeply creative genius’ experience, is at the highest level experience as the spiritual impulse. And the spiritual impulse is the urge towards consciousness, the desire to become more conscious, the felt- or the mysteriously felt urge to become more conscious, I must become more conscious, I feel I have to, I must. And we say, “Well, where does that come from? In a secular culture where our values are fundamentally materialistic and narcissistic, where could such a strong compulsion comes from?” Well, it comes from the very process that made it possible for us to have the experience right now and so the leading edge of that original intention to create a material universe is when a human being experiences this mysteriously felt compulsion towards consciousness, I must evolve level of consciousness, I must become more conscious. So that experience is what the authentic self is.
Topic: The higher "we"
Andrew Cohen: Well, the higher “we” is when any two or more individuals awaken to the consciousness of this authentic self in the same time and in the same place because the authentic self is the- or the urge to become more conscious, this passionately felt, ecstatic sense of urgency, is egoless. So when I awaken to that state of consciousness and that future oriented compulsion that’s not personal and you would awaken to that future oriented compulsion that’s not personal we experience what’s called intersubjective nonduality. Intersubjective means between subjects. It’s the shared space between individuals. And what we experience in this state is that- is there are no ego boundaries so there would be a sense that there’s literally nothing between us, that we are in fact one being, one consciousness, while at the same time and in the same space recognizing and appreciating the fact that we are actually two different people. And it’s a paradox and it’s a contradiction but in the experience we experience both at the same time and in the experience there isn’t any contradiction. It’s simply true that we are absolutely one and at the same time we are different. And this makes it possible for us to share a sense of intimacy and communion and trust and also creative engagement that’s absolutely impossible in any other kind of circumstance.
Recorded on: 04/28/2008
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Luke Allen on June 12, 2008, 8:24 PM
PLEASE go to www.strippingthegurus.com and read what this man really claims. It is free to read and his section is in chap. xxi (11)
Luke Allen on June 13, 2008, 12:24 AM
PLEASE go to www.strippingthegurus.com and read what this man really claims. It is free to read and his section is in chap. xxi (11)
Brian Taylor on September 21, 2009, 5:42 PM
Despite the things one hears about Andrew Cohen, his argument itself stands completely dismissable on the same grounds that one might take exception to the belief in a faith healer. That is not to say even that “faith healing” as something that verily exists can or can not be proven, but rather that one requires faith in said healing for it to exist.
What about the rest of us?
I am attempting to reclaim the term “Authentic Self” in the name of Science. To be specific the sciences of psychology and philosophy. I am reclaiming it from Dr. Phil, Eckart Tolle, Andrew Cohen and anyone else who currently uses the term outside the empirical. My thesis is that Authentic Self may be achievable satisfactorily through psychology, at least to the point of dealing with the psyche. Without due philosophical consideration to the social causation of the “Unauthentic Self” through purpetuated societal norms, we are dismissing a larger problem and losing the opportunity to solve it. We cant see the fire for the trees. Dr. Phil and folks like him are dealing with individual trees, with individual problems and without acknowledging the fire that’s about to take over.
1. Authentic Self is achievable through the psychological examination of subconscious paradigms.
2. Perpetuated societal norms are the cause of subconscious paradigms.
3. Psychological examination of an individual does not adress over all causation.
4. Addressing the overall causation is preferable to treating individual cases.
At the following link my rather lengthy and painstaikingly argument, essentially against Mr. Cohen and his wealthy cohorts, continues and from there it continues, etc….
http://bigthink.com/briantaylor2/anti-social-engineering-assignees-prerogative-and-authentic-self
Best Thoughts,
Brian Taylor
Brian Taylor on September 21, 2009, 6:10 PM
Furthermore, (taken from my site http://www.anti-socialengineering.com
Dan Dennett is a philosopher and author. So is Andrew Cohen. They are at opposite ends of a spectrum. Dan’s position is summed up nicely by his opening comments at Beyond Belief 2 (an annual conference of scientists concerned with enlightenment.) He called it, “The difference between diplomacy and dishonesty.” He said, “Excuse me Sir, but do you realize that your entire life has been constructed around you through a fantasy based belief structure and by passing it on to your children you are exacerbating a dangerous continuation of nonsense.”
Andrew Cohen, someone who specifically uses the term, “Authentic Self,” claims to have insight to the ultimate causation. That is, where Dan will not give an inch on his Atheism and his distaste for the idea of faith; Andrew will neither yield his Theism nor his interpretations of God as the “act of creation, itself.” To be fair, Dan Dennett would probably argue that he was referring to religion and not God specifically. To be fair to Andrew Cohen, he could be right. As I’m sure you are growing accustomed to, you and I can’t answer either men. The fact that we recognize our limitation is our reward.
There can be no blinders on the open mind. Apparently it’s not enough for the new modern Philosophes to acquaint you with yourself, they want to push into the unknowable and declare the fantastic, most doing so vehemently.
Despite the lack of comfort provided by the truly reality-based point of view, the empowerment of understanding validity outweighs the need for faith. Faith, however biased, is still welcome with your Assignee’s Prerogative, as it is your own. Have all the faith you want, just know that it’s faith. Be mindful of influence and determine it worthy or dismiss it as irrelevant. Herein also lies the beginning of appreciating the difference between experiential norms and social norms.
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